2007/12/05 by JUN • • Reply

first comment!!

Thank you very much guys!!
Im shaking for excitement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow! ill b using this in TOKYO!!

2008/03/25 by elidor • • Reply

mannnn.... you guys are a genius !!!
i cant wait to try this awsome thing

2009/01/19 by Marwyn Ng • • Reply

this is great guys! i wanna try it out here at our place. im planning to make a business out of it, if you can help me out maybe we can be business partners on this one. any guides where i can get the green led pointers?

2009/06/30 by Anonymous • • Reply

This software is not for commercial usage! Please read the read me that comes with the download.

2009/05/29 by matthew • • Reply

This is pretty cool, and I can see some cool advertising effects at night outside nightclubs etc. Good work, now you just need to make some money off of it...

2007/12/06 by Frank • www • Reply

Thanks! Now to figure out what I want to do with it.

2007/12/06 by cr0s • www • Reply

wouhhhhhhhhhhh

it's christmas ????? this software is just amazing thanks for your works ! !

bless

2008/06/09 by Gumbec • • Reply

2007/12/06 by Guglielmo • • Reply

Thank you for making this available. I hope to share this with my community at a festival this spring. I downloaded the PC version and get a \\\"problem running this program\\\" message. I am running Vista. Is that a problem?

2007/12/07 by Theo • • Reply

Running Vista is definitely a problem ; )

Well I guess that could be it - I am pretty sure it is solid on XP.

Oh shit - maybe you need quicktime installed?

That might be it.

2007/12/08 by Guglielmo • • Reply

Thanks. Loading Quicktime did the job for my slow XP machine. Still doesn't work on my fast Vista machine. Oh well.

2007/12/15 by BlueFusion • www • Reply

You need to run it in compatibility mode maybe. Right click the program .exe and go Properties. Compatibility tab. Select Run in compatibility mode for Windows XP. Select Run as administrator.
Hit OK on properties then try again!

Good luck.

2007/12/06 by Anonymous • • Reply

omfg yay!!!!!!!!!! Theodore, I have to say that I love you! lolololol

OMFG, I CAN SHOW THIS IN MY COMPUTER TECH CLASS!!!!! *does flips of joy* :D

2007/12/07 by Andrew • • Reply

Thanks Theo, I am currently getting a projector right now to work on this, I just need some info about the whole career thing though, when ever you are free drop me an email
FANTASTIC WORK!

2007/12/08 by Riodoro • • Reply

WOW
The software is great, but its not working with the camera on vista(i have quicktime installed):-(

2007/12/08 by Theo • • Reply

What does the console window output? - I am afraid I can't test in vista because I uninstalled it from my laptop and reinstalled win xp - I don't really consider vista a viable or stable operating system and it is a huge waste of cpu and graphics power which could be instead used for Laser Tag - sorry - vista rant over :)

2007/12/11 by Riodoro • • Reply

My console windows does the same output as Nikis.(same laptop)

2007/12/08 by pato • www • Reply

hey theo, app is great!! thanks!

2007/12/09 by Theo • • Reply

Small update for PCs users - newer videoinput lib should improve capture possibilities - not sure about vista though!

2007/12/10 by Niki • • Reply

Hello. First thanks for your work. I like this programm. I tested the progamm on Vista Home Premuium with my Laptop:
2,2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Nvida Geforce 8600 GT

Quicktime is installed

The console say that: http://www.helpfire.de/lasertag/img/console.PNG
here are my results:
http://www.helpfire.de/lasertag

2007/12/10 by Guerrilla • www • Reply

Thank you Theo! I will have some videos for you soon. The locals here in Louisville KY love this.

2007/12/11 by Theo • • Reply

as long as it is not used for advertising, marketing or promotion then I will be :)

2007/12/11 by Guerrilla • • Reply

Only used for fun and the locals always join in on the action. I trucked it out to this Light Up Louisville festival a couple weeks ago and the parents & kids went crazy, I turned around and there was a line peeps that wanted to take part.

I use the same Watec & Panasonic 5K you and the GRL guys used before. Was out testing it tonight, works beautifully so far. Love the color & brush options. Setup time was cut down by 75%, less tweaking needed.

I'm heading home to Orlando FL for x-mas, watch out here we come.

Seriously: While I do run an outdoor advertising service that's in the beginning stages, I have only used your software for fun, not business and have no plans to incorporate it into my service list. If you do decide to sell licenses down the road, tell me where to send the money.

Hopefully I will make to NYC to meet up with you and the GRL gang. Although I might get Rick rolled.

Thank you,
Guerrilla

2007/12/10 by Will • • Reply

This is so cool, if it would only work with stupid Vista. Error is as follows:
SETUP: Setting up device 0
SETUP: Camera Name
SETUP: Couldn't find preview pin using SmartTee
SETUP: Setting Capture size 320 by 240
SETUP: Media Type is YUY2 converted to RGB24
SETUP: Capture callback set
... Then crash!!

2007/12/11 by Theo • www • Reply

Going to upload a different pc app soon - so keep an eye out and let me know if it works with vista.

2007/12/11 by Enya • • Reply

HI Theo, do i have to d/l both Laser Tag 2.0 PC App and Visual Studio 2005 (free edition) Project at the same time in my computer? also, once i have the software, do i need to connect to my hardware such as the projector to try the software? plus, for the software, do i have install in laptop? can i install in PC and try the software?BTW, how do i connect my PC to projector?PLEASE help!! thank you!!!! can you write me bak to my email? thank you!!! appreciate for your help!! and your work is BROVO!!!!!!

2007/12/12 by Guerrilla • • Reply

Enya,

Thought I would chime in and answer some of your questions

Only run the Laser Tag 2.0 PC App (exe). It doesn't install but just runs from the folder location that you downloaded and unzipped it to.

You will need to plug in a second projector or monitor to make sure it works. You have options when it comes to connecting the projector to your computer. The best for quality is by a vga or dvi connection, if your video card has a second monitor output. Another option is if your video card has an s-video output, then plug it in to a projectors s-video input. If your video card has the option for horizontial span, select it.

-No Horizontial Span Setting-
Use UltraMon to get a the proper horizontial span and in your taskbar settings, select "Auto-hide the Taskbar".

Look through The first laser graffiti comments for UltralMon help and using Amcap to test your camera input on your computer. If you don't have a webcam you can get a cheap usb video capture device off ebay and use it for any camera, such as a cctv or handycam type. Search for ATI TV Wonder USB 2.0, it's the same one I use and it only cost about 10 dollars.

You can install it on a desktop pc, mine is a Dell 3ghz that I have in my van.

If you don't have all of the equipment required, my advice would be to borrow what you can first before buying the required components. This way you know it will work.

Good luck, I will check back here if you have any other questions.

Theo might have some more advice for you, since he is the master.

-Guerrilla

2008/03/23 by Eduardo Ellery • www • Reply

Just downloaded but adter I installed quicktime, first I got an rick astley movie then this message: "Our anti marketing robot identified your company as a marketing / ad agency. If you feel like you have been mis-identified contact grl@mailinator.com."

What can I do to play with laser tag

2008/03/23 by Theo • • Reply

sorry about that - try now.
Theo

2007/12/12 by Jody • • Reply

2007/12/12 by Jody • • Reply

application config wrong, reinstall may fix....this is the error i get anyone know why?

2007/12/14 by Diabolik1 • • Reply

Hey Theo, do you guys uses a pure sine wave inverter or a modfied sine wave for the Pansonic projector?
thanks

2007/12/17 by Guerrilla • • Reply

Depends on your generator. Newer gensets have a modfied sine output. No need to drop the cash on a pure sine wave converter. I run a video system in my van with 4 computers, DVD players, vid mixer, and live sound equipment. Never had a problem.

Only thing to worry about some battery recharger's don't like modified sine wave gensets or 12v DC/AC inverters.

2007/12/15 by wacko911 • www • Reply

Theo & Zach, wow and thankyou. Your new version works like a charm and is so easy to use. THANKYOU for all your hard work!

2007/12/15 by alfalfa • • Reply

Hi i in the process of building this project would it be alright using a 1600 lumen projector?

Thanks
Alf

2007/12/17 by Azimuth • • Reply

Hi Theo,
I sent you an e-mail and I will leave something here on the board as well. I am almost ready to make my move on Vancouver and Whistler with a group of free thinkers and creative minds. We have all the tools in place but I am having an issue getting the camera to be picked up. It is a Canon XL1s via firewire to a Macbook pro G4 running osx10.4.4 . I have the software installed and it seems to be working fine I can set up via our projector the tracking area etc. but the camera isn't being recognized. The software is running what seems to be prerecorded video of a laser on a building. I have tried everything but have not been able to figure out why the camera isn't being picked up. Do I need to use a USB webcam instead ? Or am I just missing a step somewhere ?? Please help I would love to get this running soon there is an event up in Whistler that I would love to have this running for !!All the best and compliments on your excellent work. If I can ever help out in someway please let me know I am a resourceful person ;0)

2007/12/17 by Guerrilla • • Reply

In the camera settings menu change the value "Use camera" to 1

Then press "S" on keyboard to save settings, restart app to initialize your XL1 camera input.

If all fails run an rca video cable from XL1 to a USB capture card.

2007/12/17 by Azimuth • • Reply

Works like a charm !! We will send in some images of upcoming tags !

Azimuth

Thanks a bundle !!!

2007/12/17 by diabolik1 • • Reply

Thanks for the answer Guerilla,

I am using a Vector 3000 watt modified sine wave inverter. Bought it this year but afraid to plug the projector in cause the Panasonic projector costed $5000+ usd and didn\'t want to blow anything.

2007/12/18 by Guerrilla • • Reply

Understandable about the safety of your projector, I paid about the same for mine. Funny enough I also have the same Vector 3000 watt. My van alternator could not recharge my 2 car batteries fast enough, which is why I got a Honda Generator for the projector and other equip.

Check out this voltage calculator here, might help you out for researching battery capacity with your inverter.
http://www.dcacpowerinverters.com/faq.htm#22

2007/12/18 by Theo • • Reply

Yeah a 2000W Honda generator is definitely the way to go. The sine wave inverters are good but can be a bit unstable at times.

2007/12/18 by henry P • • Reply

Hey, I am attempting to run the program on a macbook with leopard and it is not even opening, any ideas?

2008/01/02 by Theo • • Reply

the new app download link should run on leopard now - there were a couple of errors in my code :)

cheers

2007/12/19 by Kevin Neberman • www • Reply

Theo! Thanks for the source code update! Great to see that you are still doing well with grl.

2007/12/19 by henry • • Reply

application config wrong, reinstall may fix....

getting this error, anybody have any idea why or how to fix it?

2007/12/25 by Theo • • Reply

on xp - hmm -do you unzip the whole zip file?

can you put a screenshot of the message also showing the console window output?

2007/12/21 by panocia • • Reply

Hi Theo Genius !
I am wondering if your fantastic program can support more than one projector. We are in the process to setup a huge projected surface and we would like to use 2 or more projectors which can cover partly the area projected. Like 3 projectors in parallel horizontally....can we do it ? Any suggestion ? do we have to change the code ? easy ? thanks in advance !!

2007/12/25 by Theo • • Reply

Hmm if you can get the computer to use all the projectors then it will work. otherwise you can just setup two systems side by side. More than than one projector on a pc will need some reworking of the code though (not much).

:)

2007/12/21 by D K • www • Reply

Shit yeah! I showed the first demos to some graffiti artists I know in LA, including Saber and Retna. I'm dying to get this working and projecting onto downtown LA! I even found a good source for some powerful lasers too. One of the lasers they carry even has a range of 100 miles...overkill for what I want but nice to know just in case... :D

Danke!

-Don

2007/12/22 by Dirk • • Reply

Is it possible to add more brush colors, if so how do you do it. Thanks in advance =)

2007/12/25 by Theo • • Reply

Just edit the settings/colors.xml file you can add / change hex colors there.

2007/12/25 by Andrew • • Reply

Happy Holidays to all!

2007/12/25 by James • • Reply

Theo, this is an incredible program. Thanks for making a mac version.

This is an open question. In regards to the laser pointers, what difference does the mW value make with the projector? Is it just a matter of a 60 mW laser working at a greater distance than a 5 mW, or does the power play into how the projector/program responds to the movement?

2007/12/25 by Theo • • Reply

It is really a factor of distance and projector brightness and also camera sensitivity. 20mW will work for most smaller buildings with a 5000 lumens projector - 60mW is sort of a sure thing for almost any situation. 5mw will work for indoors and shorter distances.

2007/12/25 by Theo • • Reply

yup - just got leopard on my laptop - will upload a leopard zip soon. - sorry about that - (it will be marked as leopard app - so stay tuned).

theo

2007/12/26 by Nick • www • Reply

I\'ve been with you since you\'ve released the first one, and I LOVED it. At one point, I had everything I needed. A projector, a laptop (with windows), and a 15mw 525nm green laser. But now, I\'m stuck with all of that but a laptop running windows. I\'m so happy that there is a new version, I\'ve been waiting for it. But now I can only get linux installed on my laptop. I really wish there was some way of running it on ubuntu. If anyone has come up with anything, please let me know. Thank you!

2007/12/30 by digital media student • • Reply

Hey there Theo,

I have a really stupid question if you dont mind. If i was gonna project in a small room, would a 1400 lumens projector be sufficient enough? thanx bro. cheers! btw, great job man!

2007/12/30 by Pysano • • Reply

You guys are awesome!
-PYSA
-The Seventh Letter
-MSK
-LTS

2008/01/02 by Adrian • • Reply

It interests to me to commercialize it, I can be reuinir with you?

2008/01/02 by Theo • • Reply

No. The software is available for non-commercial use only.

2008/01/02 by Will • • Reply

I now have it working on an older XP notebook but I only get about 15 FPS. My much faster notebook is Vista and does not work due to an issue with detecting the camera. Any news on a Vista patch? Thanks for the cool software.

2008/01/02 by Theo • • Reply

Can you try this link for Vista and see if it works?

http://openframeworks.cc/lasertag/LaserTag2000LeopardApp.zip

2008/01/02 by DubBrother • • Reply

Im haveing trouble setting up the camera on the laser tag system. using two different cam i have yet to get the software up and running. i have a used my ATI all in wonder card and a web cam and software is not picking up any devices. am i missing some little key aspect to make the software run correctly.

2008/01/03 by Theo • • Reply

Try installing AmCap - if you can capture in AmCap then you should be able to capture with Laser Tag 2.0 -

Or did you switch the camera mode on in the settings? You have to set 'Use Camera' to 1 then hit 's' key to save settings then restart the app - the camera should start at this point - you can also use 'Camera No' to select which device to use (also requires a save and a restart).

2008/01/03 by Will • • Reply

I went to your URL and picked up the Vista Test code. Initial testing looks very positive. The application now runs and does not crash. I did notice that it only supports one camera though. Ill test more tomorrow night afer work. Will

2008/01/03 by Theo • • Reply

Cool - sounds good.
Could you email me or post in these comments the output from the console window when Laser Tag 2.0 runs in Vista - it will help me figure out the camera issue.

thanks
theo

2008/01/03 by Will • • Reply

Here ya go. Captured start of app through end of app, I have to disable the buit in camera of the Sony notebook I am using to get the external USB camera to be used. Tonight I will set up the projector and give it a goot playing with. Thanks!! Will


***** VIDEOINPUT LIBRARY - 0.1990 - TFW07 *****

listing data/brushes/
ofDirList - listing 000-brush.png
ofDirList - listing 001-soft.png
ofDirList - listing 002-slash.png
ofDirList - listing 003-spotty.png
ofDirList - listing 006-pent.png
ofDirList - listing 007-cross.png
ofDirList - listing 008-copy.png
ofDirList - listing 009-calligLeft.png
ofDirList - listing 010-paint.png
ofDirList - listing 011-air-insane.png
ofDirList - listed 10 files in data/brushes/
listing data/tunes/
ofDirList - listing 04_ruffSquad_loveUFeel.mp3
ofDirList - listing 11_ruffSqwad_diedInUrArms.mp3
ofDirList - listed 2 files in data/tunes/
choosing 0
SETUP: Setting up device 0
SETUP: Sony Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC4
SETUP: Couldn't find preview pin using SmartTee
SETUP: Setting capture size to 320 by 240
SETUP: Media Type is YUY2 converted to RGB24
SETUP: Capture callback set
SETUP: Device is setup and ready to capture.


SETUP: Disconnecting device 0
SETUP: freeing Grabber Callback
SETUP: freeing Grabber
SETUP: freeing Control
SETUP: removing filter NullRenderer...
SETUP: filter removed NullRenderer
SETUP: removing filter Sample Grabber...
SETUP: filter removed Sample Grabber
SETUP: removing filter AVI Decompressor...
SETUP: filter removed AVI Decompressor
SETUP: removing filter Smart Tee...
SETUP: filter removed Smart Tee
SETUP: removing filter Sony Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC4...
SETUP: filter removed Sony Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC4
SETUP: freeing Capture Graph
SETUP: freeing Main Graph
SETUP: Device 0 disconnected and freed

2008/01/04 by Alastair McElhoney • • Reply

cheers mate. looks amazing.

2008/01/04 by Jeremy Ruhland • www • Reply

Anyone else have the mac program crash on them when they activate the camera option? I'm running on a macbook with 10.4.9 it it helps.

2008/01/05 by Theo • • Reply

What sort of camera is it? Just the built in one?

What number is camera id set to ? (it should be 0)

2008/01/05 by Jeremy Ruhland • www • Reply

Yes, I\'m using the built in iSight. After I set useCamera to 1 and the cameraID to 0 and save the settings it unexpectedly quits the next time I open it. I just tried the program on my PPC mac (iBook G4) and the same thing happened (that time I used a Logitech USB webcam with the macCam plugin). I\'ve been able to use the older version of laserTag (with Processing)

2008/01/05 by Jeremy Ruhland • www • Reply

I just installed xCode and compiled from source. It works on all of my computers now. Thanks for such a cool program!

2008/01/05 by Theo • • Reply

Oh damn - that just happened to me too - sorry - will update Sunday AM - hmm something must have changed between builds. Will do ASAP.

2008/01/06 by Theo • www • Reply

Just uploaded the fix - I was playing with optimization and I think I managed to mess up the video capture. But it is fixed now and the standalone app should be a quite a lot faster than the one from source. 50 - 59 fps on my macbook pro while using advanced quad.

2008/01/07 by Judd • • Reply

great app and work, many thanks

2008/01/07 by Judd • • Reply

is anyone else having issues with the new vista build?

I have everything set up fine, laser is seen, camera is all good etc.

when not in full screen mode I can see the laser fine in the left panel window and can see the lines being drawn in the right window but no image is projected through the projector.
then when I toggle to full screen, an image is now projected but laser tracking no longer works properly. it tracks for about 2 seconds then stops.

any thoughts?

2008/01/08 by Theo • • Reply

Well the first issue is normal. The projector only can project the graphics if you are running it fullscreen.

The second one is very strange - can you send me more detailed info? Or even better make a quick video showing the problem?

Cheers!
Theo

2008/01/07 by Judd • • Reply

fyi I'm using an intel gfx chipset in my laptop.
Has anyone got this to work with non nvidia?

2008/01/08 by James • • Reply

Could anybody give me a general benchmark for projector lumens? Meaning, what will 'x' lumens project onto?

I'm planning on projecting outside onto a building that's about 50 feet away from the projection point. How bright of a projector should I be looking at?

2008/01/08 by Theo • • Reply

it really depends how much ambient light is on the building - what color the building is and how big you are projecting. you should also keep in mind the lens ratio of the projector. a standard lens is somewhere between 1:1.5 and 1:2.0. If you have 1:2.0 lens your image will only be 25ft wide if you are 50ft from the wall. But if you can get a wide through lens like 1:1.2 then your image can be 42 feet wide.

If the building is not lit very much by surrounding lights and the surface is a lightish color then you would probably want something between 3000-5000 lumens (to look good) 2000 might work as well but it might not really stand out to well.

hope that helps!

2008/01/08 by Gaston • • Reply

Gracias Theo! ya me fascino la primera version(que a duras penas -9fps- hice funcionar),esta mejorare el software lo maximo posible.A modo informativo the first test was with:llavero LAser rojo(10mw?);Eyetoy (W red filter on top);Vaio (AtiRadeon AGP345m - old);proyector 1500 Lumens.

Desde el Principado de Andorra
te saludo y los invito a mi casa cuando quieran expresarse por aqui.Se necesita \"actividad\".Un saludo fraternal.

2008/01/10 by Jody • • Reply

I need some help...
i downloaded the app to my laptop and it gave me this error:

application config wrong, reinstall may fix....

i re-downloaded and tried again, no luck.

i have a friend who has an IBM desktop computer and it ran on that but the program wouldnt display what the camera was looking at(there was no camera input!!)i have amcap installed and everything.

the laptop is an acer aspire and the desktop is some form of custom IBM.

2008/01/10 by Grizzlebees • • Reply

First off, I'd like to say kudos on getting this relase out for the mac populus. I've been dreaming of lasertagging a building right down the block for quite some time now...but I'm running into a really annoying problem. I cant get the program open.

whenever i click on it, I get an "Openframeworks quit unexpectedly" message.

I would just chalk it up to age, by my comp. seems to run everything else fine, and I just put leopard on it a few weeks ago, so.....

I guess the best I can do is tell you what I've got:

Powerbook g4 aluminum

1.67 ghz PPC processor

1gig ram.

any clues?

2008/01/10 by Theo • www • Reply

Hmmm - strange.
Is it the app download or the app from the source code you are running?

Do you have xcode installed?

If so there are a couple of things you can do to help me figure out the problem.

1) install xcode and try and compile the xcode project file in the laser tag source download. You might get some errors on the first compile but select -> Build -> Clean All and (Build-> Build and Go)

The other thing you can do is go to Developer/Tools/Utilities/CrashReporterPrefs.app and set your mode to Developer - this will tell you why Laser Tag is crashing.

If you need to install xcode you can download it from apple's developer's site. bugmenot.com can give you hassle free access.

Sorry I can't debug it from here - I have a PPC mac running Tiger and a Intel Mac running leopard.

2008/03/28 by grom • • Reply

I had this same problem, but i found if i re-download the program it works again. i also saved alternate versions of my settings and music in another folder and just place em into the one lasertag is using.

2008/01/10 by Theo • • Reply

Hmm - actually I can reproduce the bug on my ppc powerbook - so I should be able to sort it out.

theo

2008/01/10 by Theo • • Reply

Hey - it should be fixed now - there was a small issue with quicktime on ppc - but now it is running on both my ppc and intel machines.

So re-download the app and let me know if you have any more problems.

2008/01/11 by Judd • • Reply

can anyone please give me some examples of the fps they are getting?

2008/01/11 by Theo • www • Reply

On a core2duo 2.2GHZ mac book pro I get around 49 fps - on a Asus with core2duo 1.8GHz I get around 40fps and with my powerbook G4 667 I get 10fps.

This is all with the advanced quad turned on. Turning off advanced quad can improve fps by about 10-20fps. If you can work with out it (it scales rather than masks) then don't use it - but for the video where we are tagging on a large building it is needed because the laser is very small to the camera.

2008/01/11 by LINGDUM • www • Reply

Man This is so cool. Thanks you guys. This little program works very well, I even tried it during the day time in my room and the"Laser Tracking Setting" system works so well. It's allow me to save setting to XML too. This is way too good. Now it's time for fun.

Thanks again

2008/01/12 by blackdeath42 • • Reply

WOW!
Thanks Theo!!!

This software works perfecly!

My Laptop is fairly low spec and it can run with no lag whatsoever :D
(1.73 GHz processor, 1GB of ram and a crappy Intel GMA 950 graphics card)

Again, THANK YOU!!

2008/01/13 by Alfalfa • • Reply

can you use a red laser with this project?

2008/01/15 by Pilu • • Reply

Hi guys. Amazing App.!!!

This is Pilu from Spain. I,m thinking on setting up a LaserTag for a festival for the atendants to try it with no cost at all. During the festival they will have live concerts, dj´s, desing proyects, cinema and URBAN STYLE. It would be great to have the attendants painting with the lasertag!

Since the festival is sponsored by Heineken, I\\\\\\\'d like to know wether it is suitable to do it because of the marketing use.

I,ve been using it at home and it,s a wonderful stuff.

Thanks a lot.

2008/01/17 by Theo • • Reply

As long as it is not covered with Heineken branding or they don't just want it to write heineken logos then it is fine.

Also bare in mind that the you can't charge a fee for the service of setting up and running the software.

Anyway if you set it up for people to write their tags, messages or thoughts - and not for marketing, we would be super happy for you to use it.

:)
Theo

2008/01/16 by Emac • • Reply

hi i really think this is COOl software and i would use it IF i could gt it to work. im useing a macbook and my dv cam corder with a RED Laser HELP i WANT IT TO WORK

2008/01/17 by Theo • • Reply

Do you realise that you have not said anything that can help someone help you to get it working?

How does it not work?
Does it launch and then crash?
Does it not even start at all?
What OS X version do you have?

2008/01/17 by emac • • Reply

SORRY i have mac os 10.4.10 , and i an get everything started but when i use my laser on the projection surface nothing shows up. i know that the cmera is working becuase i can see it on the screen

2008/01/18 by Theo • • Reply

Well first you need to make sure your projector is set to 1024 768 and your main screen is set to 1024 768 and then you need to follow the instructions above about setting the glut window to extend across displays.

then when you run your app you should be able to hit the 'f' key and go fullscreen across both windows - to test hit sace bar and your should a quad outline projected.

2008/01/18 by Theo • • Reply

You will probably need to also play with the brightness of your camera and also the tracking settings to get the laser tracking well.

2008/01/17 by Judd • • Reply

Wicked Theo, thanks for your help. Now up and running OK, just need to play around a bit to get the tracking a bit smoother.
Bringing brightness as near as possible to zero whilst still being able to see the laser solved my issues. also cranked the shutter speed right up.

Nice one and greeting from Sydney!

2008/01/18 by Pilu • • Reply

Sure, no Heineken logos or marketing, just people using it in order for the spanish guys to know about the app.

Thanks a lot.

2008/01/19 by enyce • • Reply

Hey Theo,

I downloaded and ran the program on my macbook pro. strangely enough it ran with no problems several times, but now it refuses to start at all. i have redownloaded the thing, but it still won't do. is there any settings the program writes in the system files, which i have to delete? i am runnig mac osx 10.4.11.

2008/01/21 by snowcha • www • Reply

I am going to buy a projector. How much lumens do i need for these project like on this top page? Thanks for help

2008/01/23 by theq • • Reply

A Linux version would be really great.
I dont want to install windows on my laptop just to use this :(

2008/01/23 by Goran • • Reply

Pressing C does not bring up any camera settings....this is using vista.

2008/01/23 by adam • • Reply

when pressing c to bring up the settings the program crashes..im using vista, i can get the camera showing up on the screen but cannot get it to track the laser

2008/01/23 by adam • • Reply

found out it didnt matter when using vista..i used xp and now just the problem of crashing after i press c, any help?

2008/01/24 by enyce • • Reply

just wanted to tell you, that i have found a fix for my problem. i created a new user account in osx and now i was able to start the program again. i have no idea, why it doesnt work under the other account, but i will inform you if i find out. thanks for the great program!

2008/01/24 by Theo • • Reply

huh - that is really strange.
did you change the camera size by any chance?

2008/01/24 by adam • • Reply

alright i got it to track motion when standing infront of the camera..but i still cannot get it to track the laser motion on the projected area...this maybe because i cant get into the camera settings. BTW im using a 5mW red laser i dont know if thats a problem

2008/01/28 by Steph • • Reply

Hello!

This program is pretty sweet. I am able to get my little webcam to work, but it appears there\\\'s a calibration discrepancy. I have a Canon camcorder that I can see working in AmCap, but the program tells me:

\\\"error allocating a video device
please check your camera with AMCAP or other software\\\"

Any thoughts???

THANKS!

2008/01/28 by Steph • • Reply

Hi! I got the camcorder working.

Do you have an recommendations on settings to obtain the best tracking results? There is a delay and the laser does not line up with the output.

THANKS!

2008/01/28 by Theo • • Reply

Please read the how to thoroughly - it is all there!

Also check the settings guide that I put together.

It is all on this page.

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2008/01/29 by Al • • Reply

Let me first start of by saying WOOOOOW!! Very impressive..i do however have some questions. First of all, what's the biggest projection you guys have pulled off? Can the item projected be colored? Finally can it have movement?
I would love to have a big moving colored projection on the buildings..that would be cool

2008/01/29 by Theo • • Reply

The pictures above are colored :) - so yes.

There is one module that moves and is in color.

The biggest is still the building in Rotterdam (see it on my projects page).

2008/01/29 by Al • • Reply

So can you load an image and project it in a say 30m width size?

2008/01/29 by Theo • • Reply

wow - I don't think you really understand what this project is about :)

try watching this video:
http://muonics.net/site_assets/40/files/_LaserTag.mov

2008/01/29 by Anonymous • • Reply

Thanks for the link. I got the idea from your thorough write up. However, i wanted to know if it is possible to project an image in motion and then color over it with the laser...what type of projector where you using in the video?

2008/01/29 by Theo • • Reply

ohhhh - okay - like an animated gif , or video? and then tag over it?

that should be possible yes - though you would need to know how to code it (not too easy).

the easy way would be to have one computer projecting the movie and then another one doing laser tag over it - that would be super easy.

color - only shows up well if you have a birght projector (the pics from the top of this post are from a 12000 lumens ) - also the bigger you go the less bright the image so thats also a trade off

2008/01/29 by Al • • Reply

Interesting...having two makes sense...but to get an extremely bright and clear image in a 30m width size in a dark area on a white building, what type of a projector do I need? Does it have to be something like the Barco XLM HD30 (30000 lumens) or the Sanyo PLC-XF47 (15000)? They are pretty expensive although I do have access to the Sanyo from a friend.

2008/01/29 by Fefo • • Reply

Wow! Really awesome stuff Theo!

Got mine to work in a room wall using an HP laptop\'s built in web cam, although it took a lot of messing around with the tracking settings.

Another thing that seemed to make the tracking a lot more accurate for me, was reducing the brightness on the projector all the way. I think this is because since I\'m in a smaller space, the added light from the projector was making it hard for the program to distinguish the laser.

Anyhow, it\'s working pretty good... Planning on testing it outside soon, hopefully with a better camera.

You might also be interested to know that you\'ve now brought Lazer Tagging to Puerto Rico!!

- Fefo

2008/01/30 by Theo • • Reply

Awesome! Yeah it is always a battle when you have a bright projector or it is very close to the camera. What I try and do is bring the brightness of the camera down as much as possible so that the laser is still visible but the projection isn't. If this still doesn't work then you have to reduce the projector brightness.

Good luck and send pics!
Theo

2008/01/31 by Sean • www • Reply

What is the minimum laser class? is it 70mW? or would 50mW work?

2008/01/31 by Theo • • Reply

It depends on the scale - but 50mW should be more than enough for most situations.

2008/02/01 by Sean • • Reply

Ah, so the larger the application, the larger the requirement for
1) laser
2) projector
3) camera.

So for a grandiose scale app, I would need something more like your Rotterdam gig. 5000 lumens, 70mw and that Watec CCD. But for smaller gigs, where there is less light interference and the size is smaller, almost anything will do. Get it now, thanks Theo!

2008/02/04 by Christian Brown • • Reply

I'm having a little trouble recompiling your VS2005 project. I installed the platform SDK and the directX sdk, but when I try to compile your project, I get over 7000 errors, all from the SDK header files. Is there some linker setting I need to change in the project? Thanks!

2008/02/04 by Christian Brown • • Reply

I tried setting this up with VC++ 2008, and once I downloaded a new version of rtAudio from the OF forums, it worked fine. Added advantage: VC++ 2008 comes with the Platform SDK, so no need to download it.

Just thought I'd let you know. I'm planning on doing some major work with this, adapting it from graffiti to some other interactive work, so we'll see how that goes.

2008/02/05 by Theo • • Reply

Awesome- I am really looking forward to seeing people modify the system for whatever they want - so I would be very excited to see what you come up with!

Theo

2008/06/22 by Seth Frankston • • Reply

Christian Brown,

I have a few years of programming experience, primarily VB and C#. You seemed to have accessed the source code with ease. I’m having trouble building the project once opened in VS 2008. I have added the DirectX stuff, I’m assuming there are other issues with the libs but I can’t figure it out.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks ahead of time.

2008/06/23 by Theo • • Reply

If you go to the openFrameworks forum (http://openframeworks.cc/forum) search for the rtAudio lib for 2008. If that doesn't fix things post the errors you are getting.

Cheers!
Theo

2008/02/05 by zach • www • Reply

good morning from USA-sent Theo an email this morning, I hope you're going to be in the USA soon. Set-up everything this morning HAD SO MUCH FUN with 2.4 ghz duo Intel Mac 10.5.1, 50W green laser, built in I-Sight, and NEC NP40 2200 lumen projector. When I changed the colors to yellow, orange and red the projection went berserk and uncontrollable. The projection continued to show and draw and track the laser but irregular. ???? When changed the pen color back to white, purple or red the problem stopped. I also have to \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"force quit openFrameworks\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" to restart the program. Have sent error report to Apple. ?????

2008/02/05 by Guy2 • • Reply

I was at the workshop at Pratt last Spring where they said that a company like \"Coke\" could \"do it themselves .. here is the code\" .. now I notice that on the 2.0 it says it may NOT be used for commercial projects...what\'s the story? What\'s the cost?

2008/02/05 by Theo • • Reply

Nah - we decided we don't like it when companies take our work and use it for advertising. Plus Laser Tag is designed as a reaction to advertising so obviously we are not going to encourage coke to download our software and use it for that.

We designed the software for everyone else accept coke and advertisers and marketers :)

To be honest it really hurts when we see it being used for some crappy marketing stunt (it is only happened a couple of times so far).

2008/02/05 by Guy2 • • Reply

Thanks for the speedy response Theo... so happens if a commercial entity does use it? I have a google video link to a company that used it for a large footwear brand...do you sue em?

2008/02/05 by Gwang • • Reply

Hi Theo, can't wait to try out this setup!
I am already curious if i can eventually set up multiple projector/laptop/camera set ups for a huge room with 2 story high wall space, so u can paint a whole environment. So end result would hopefully be u can paint on one wall, and it mirrors on other walls, and also u can switch to other walls and so forth. Oh yeah and a ceiling one too! So it doesn't seem Laser Tag 2.0 was built for this purpose, but even before i try it out for the first time, i am wondering is it possible for multiple copies of Laser Tag 2.0 to be networked together and take over as the "live" painting surface? perhaps with a double sided laser pointer u could paint on 2 or more surfaces at once? Sorry if this kind of out there but i really want to play in such a setup :)
and thanks so much again for sharing this great software, can't wait to try it!

Gwang

2008/02/05 by Theo • • Reply

The software can send the x y data over the network - so you can have the second, 3rd fourth wall drawn with a simple fullscreen flash app.

2008/02/05 by Gwang • • Reply

Awesome, thanks for the information!

2008/02/06 by zach • • Reply

maybe a company would hire you as a contract designer instead of just ripping you off. ever thought about that???

2008/02/06 by Guy2 • • Reply

Zach .. they have indeed considered hiring themselves out for adverstising .. in fact there is a very eye-catching link on the GRL website (scroll on the right side) for exactly those types of inquiries. http://graffitiresearchlab.com/

2008/02/10 by enyce • www • Reply

we tried out the laser tag software. it worked nice, but it was a very cold evening with lots of wind and eventually rain ;-) you can check out some photos at our site: http://sb-installationen.de/lasertag.html

thanks theo for providing this great piece of software!

2008/02/10 by scott hawthorn • • Reply

hi,
when i get to the stage where i hit the space bar to align the camera and projector nothing happens when i hit the space bar....
i am on a mac. any ideas?
scott

2008/02/14 by na3s • • Reply

So I got the system to work except for 2 details;

1) FPS is way too low (LaserTag side of things, camera keeps at 30FPS).
2) I cannot access camera settings from the program. Windows causes an error everytime. I cannot find how to edit the camera\'s settings anywhere else on the computer (although the camera readme says you can adjust settings, just not HOW to adjust settings.)

Any tips? OR some generic software that can help change camera settings?

Thanks again. Great program and work, love v.2.

2008/02/15 by na3s • • Reply

I fixed both the problems I mentioned in last comment.

But found a bug.

When I go to brush 3, LaserTag crashes.

2008/02/15 by Theo • • Reply

Hi - could you explain what you did to fix the previous issues?
Also what OS are you running - mac, pc , xp, vista, os x Intel /ppc etc etc.

Are you using the video or the camera at the moment?

2008/02/15 by chester • • Reply

Hi,
i want to thank you so much for sharing this. I tried it and got it to work but there are several problems. Can you help me solve it? one is picture is a lot slower than the movement of the laser pointer. does this have to do with the camera? i am using a logitech quick cam, somewhat like yours i guess. And i couldnt get the "c" button, the camera setting to work. whenever i press it, laser tag shuts down. o and i use a pc windows xp.
is there anyway to fix this? o and may i ask what camera do you have for the laser tag?
thank you
Chester

2008/02/16 by theo • • Reply

yeah it looks like the camera is set to have an auto exposure - which slows down the cameras framerate to get more light into the camera. you should be able to turn this off with the settings but if the 'c' key is not working then you can try changing the settings in a program called AmCap which is a free download or in the logitech software itself. - You basically want the exposure to be on manual and aprox 1/60 1/90 - also turn off all other auto features of the camera.

I am going to test the app on my pc - I might have to update the videocapture library for the camera setting issue.

hope that helps - theo

2008/02/17 by Theo • • Reply

New versions of Laser Tag up - OS X and XP / Vista.

On Windows Camera Settings button should now work.

On Mac now using fast openCV Library - should be a lot faster.

Enjoy!
Theo

2008/11/18 by Matt • • Reply

I cannot click on the options on the right of the application. Mac leopard.

2008/02/17 by Chester • • Reply

thank you soo much theo!! i havent tried it yet but ill tell you how it is
thanks again

2008/02/18 by armage • • Reply

Hello,

Just wondering why the projection displayed on my laptop does not cover the full screen? There is a vertical rectangular space on the right not covered on the right. Its in fullscreen mode

2008/02/21 by Theo • • Reply

Both your laptop screen and projector need to be set to use 1024 by 768 resolution. It won't go fullscreen if you have set it to something different.

2008/02/21 by Simeon Buckley • • Reply

Hi,
I downloaded the program, set up and used a small LED torch infront of my webcam. It works! =D Now i just have to wait until i can get a projector and buy a LASER...

2008/02/21 by brian • www • Reply

first of all this is like god to me... this is probubly the best thing since the computer was invented but...
i dont no how to isntall it?? i have winrar and it comes up as a .zip file shouldnt it be a .exe??
well please emial me thanks

2008/02/21 by brian • www • Reply

like how do install it?

2008/02/22 by Theo • • Reply

unzip it and run the application inside of the unzipped folder.

2008/02/22 by brian • www • Reply

Laser Tag 2002 PC App - XP and Vista - Update for Camera settings Fix (Feb 2008)??


i unzip and do that stuff to this one right?

2008/02/25 by rico • www • Reply

why is this tagging not with the red lasers possible?

cheers from germany

2008/02/26 by Theo • • Reply

It is - we just used green ones. The important thing is the power not the color.

Hmm though green might of been a lucky choice as cameras have the least ccd noise in this hue.

Theo

2008/02/26 by K=VJ2 • www • Reply

Hey guys! Thanks for the amazing project, cant wait to test it out in my local town... they wont know wats goin on! Ha!
Firstly tho, Ive tried to unzip the file, but it prompts an error saying 'No files to extract'

Am I doing somethin worng?

2008/02/26 by K=VJ2 • www • Reply

Sorry, should have said - Its the PC Version XP/Vista. And Im using XP.
Ta!

2008/02/27 by Demon • www • Reply

First off, soooooo sick. Modern day graff. I have a macbook and was wondering if I could use the built in isight camera. Anyone try this? Thanks in advance.

2008/02/27 by Kenneth • • Reply

I downloaded the program first on my desktop PC running XP and everything worked fine except for the camera function button. Then I installed it on my Vista laptop and it seems very unstable. If I enable my webcam in the program, then restart, it shuts down immediately and I have to go into the settings.xml file and change back the settings to not use a camera. Any ideas?

2008/02/27 by Theo • • Reply

On the XP machine did the camera work at all?

2008/02/27 by Kenneth • • Reply

Yeah, on the XP machine I got the camera to work and track just fine. But pressing "c" did nothing, it just sat there. It could be a problem with the camera and I'm not too concerned about it. I am concerned about the crashing on the laptop. For my next project, this needs to be a mobile operation.

2008/02/27 by Theo • • Reply

How recently did you download the software? The current version online (as of last week) should have the camera button working (the previous version didn't)

2008/02/27 by Kenneth • • Reply

I downloaded it on my desktop last night, and today on my laptop.

2008/02/27 by Anonymous • • Reply

oh man, this is awesome. im downloading this on my desktop as we speek, but i am yet to get a lappy. my friend has one, and i know a guy with a projector....ive gotta get a laser too...think ebay has any cheap ones?

2008/02/28 by Yukijung • www • Reply

Hello, would be great if someone could explain to me some details:
- I connected a sony handycam, but camerafunction c is not working...
in the same time the automatic lasertagtestvideo still appears and I do not know how to make dissapear this..I mean I have not my realtime visual on the screen...If I want to change the brush..I have no Idea how to do...
Perhaps I forgot one important step inbetween?What could it be?
(I am not really a computer freak sorry;-)
Milles Merci for any help Yuki

2008/02/28 by Theo • • Reply

Arrow keys to navigate settings.

Change camera from 0 to 1 in camera settings - save ( s key ) then restart the app.

2008/02/28 by Demon • www • Reply

Ayone got a mac setup going? Kinda confused, most of the info I find on Laser TAG is for PC. Thanks...

2008/02/28 by Demon • www • Reply

Is there a video tutorial by chance?

2008/02/29 by ted carstensen • www • Reply

hey theo, I'm a huge fan of your work, absolutely amazing stuff. I've been using your L.A.S.E.R. tag system for months... here's a video of my most recent urban disruptions, tell me what you think!


http://www.tedcarstensen.com/media/lasertagtwo.mov

pardon the second half - forgot the tripod that night (!)

2008/02/29 by Theo • • Reply

Wow - thats awesome!
Glad to see the arrow brush getting some love!

Do you have a larger version ? I would love to use the video when I do talks - and be like here is some people from ??? using laser tag.

Thanks for sending the link its always nice to see people using it and having fun.

Theo

2008/02/29 by Theo • • Reply

I am planning on doing a video tutorial soon as it is the best way for people to learn :)

For the mac it is quite easy - just run the app. If you have a camera connected you have to change the camera setting in the app (see notes and tips section above) - save it ('s' key) then restart the app.

2008/02/29 by ted carstensen • www • Reply

I put together a little media package; some info about me, some still photos of each location, and a much larger version of the video. let me know if you have any problems with the link....


http://www.tedcarstensen.com/media/GRLMidwest.zip

2008/02/29 by yukijung • www • Reply

OK fine I got it with the arrow keys ...but the video panel of the camera in the top left corner still not appears (and so the laser paint in the right corner)
How could I resolve this?
Kind regards Yuki

2008/03/05 by W • • Reply

Hi,

What a nice program! For an event in Eindhoven i like to have the Lasertag present. I have some questions before buying any equipement:
I like to project on a 15mx10m screen. So the projector will be at a 30 meter distance.
What power laser should I use?
Since I letting public use the laser, i'm trying to go as less powerfull as possible.

And what kind of camera? My guess is a webcam isnt gonna do the trick on this scale. Is a consumer digital camera gonna work (Finepix E550)?
What about a camcorder like a Sony HDR-SR1?

2008/03/05 by jjelement • • Reply

I\'am running OSX leopard , macbook 1,8 3gb ram, and when i turn camera (isight) in config open lasertag once again got CRAAASH , and again again, where is problem please help me , cause on bootcamp i can\'t turn on the projector grrrrr

(sorry for my english iam from poland )

2008/03/05 by Theo • • Reply

Could you make a video of the problem? And / Or send your settings.xml file (in the data/ folder)

Is the camera size set to 320 by 240?

2008/03/05 by jjelement • • Reply

settings



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2008/03/05 by yukijung • www • Reply

Just for information..I got it..looks like grat fun;-)
Cheers

2008/03/10 by Raybe760 • • Reply

Hay guys. I am setting up my Laser Tag system to play with and need some help picking out a camera. I have an MP770 BenQ projector. A 30Mw green laser from Deal Extreme. I hope to use the setup on as big a building as I can? What camera would be best? I will be using my Sony XP laptop. Thanks

2008/03/10 by Raybe760 • • Reply

Let me try again, new at this.
Hey guys. I am setting up my Laser Tag system to play with and need some help picking out a camera. I have an MP770 BenQ 3200 Lumes projector. A 30Mw green laser from Deal Extreme. I hope to use the setup on as big a building as I can? What camera would be best? I will be using my Sony XP laptop. Thanks

2008/03/10 by Theo • www • Reply

Well we used a Watec 231s with a wide zoom manual iris lens and a usb capture card. The Watec has very low signal to noise and you can turn off all the auto adjust features. When you get that setup correctly you can run laser tag on quite large buildings.

2008/06/25 by Florian Gutzwiller • • Reply

Are u using the TV12X0516M or YV27X29LA-2 lens. Thanks a lot.

2008/03/10 by Raybe760 • • Reply

Thanks for the camera info, are you talking about a PC card for video capture/ hooking up the camera to my laptop? Also would it be best to mount the camera to the projector in someway for traveling with the setup?

2008/03/10 by Raybe760 • • Reply

Ok I did read it right, you did say USB capture. Guess I really wanted a PC card to keep one less thing from dangling from my laptop.

2008/03/11 by Theo • • Reply

pc card would work too - as long as it as directx/directshow drivers.

2008/03/12 by donavin • • Reply

yo,
just downloaded this on my vista laptop and everything is working fine untill i set camera to 1 and restarted, now it crashes before it opens.

Please help all i got is f***ing vista.

2008/03/22 by ASTRO • • Reply

we killin it in boston.
go sox.

2008/03/23 by GROMxONE • • Reply

When i turn on the drips they are nowhere near as drippy as the pics. i messed with the frequency and the speed but it is not even close. how do i make that ill drippy mop look?

2008/03/23 by Theo • • Reply

it works the opposite way as you would think - a drip freq od 0.0 is the most drippy.

Also it depends on how fast your camera is capturing - if you have a slow setup you will get less drips

2008/03/26 by GROMxONE • • Reply

Good looks, got em working like a dream.

2008/03/25 by Sean • • Reply

I tried setting this up today on my laptop. I didnt have my video camera with me so i tried using a polycom viavideo webcam. When i set the camera to 1 and tried rebooting the app..when it starts i get this message

SETUP: Setting up device 0
SETUP: ShowingMyDesktop - Selected Application
SETUP: 320 by 240 not supported closest supported size is 9999999 9999999
SETUP: Setting capture size to 9999999 by 9999999
SETUP: Media Type is RGB24 no conversion needed.



Runtime Error!
Program

This application has requested Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the applications support team for more information.

Any ideas?

2008/03/25 by Anonymous • • Reply

Hi - make sure the drivers for the camera are installed.

Also try setting the device ID to 1 instead of 0.

Cheers!
Theo

2008/03/25 by jknrtxbrhn • • Reply

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2008/03/25 by malungo • www • Reply

Outch! 404, File not file error when trying to download de files... any clue?

2008/03/26 by D-Rud • • Reply

Hey, I tried reading all the comments for an answer to this question but I could have missed something. Is there a good cheaper alternative for a camera as opposed to the Watec that would work almost as well for smaller/medium sized building? Just don't have the scratch for that right now. Thanks for the help.

2008/03/26 by Ali McElhoney • • Reply

good afternoon chaps....quick question, is the iSight an option for this new version....having a few crashing problems....read all the above comments and it seems that there are a couple of others having similar problems with no results.....many thanks....blap

2008/03/28 by Ali McElhoney • • Reply

Never mind! working like a treat, cheers once again GRL. Already got a few events lined up in Nottingham, UK and also London area....Will post up photos once i've got them!

Hopefully linking 2 x 4000 lumen projectors and better camera for it though.....

Also whats the crack with linking the camera via firewire? will it still work?

blap blap!

2008/03/28 by Theo • • Reply

Cool glad you got it working! What was the issue?

Firewire should work but might be slow as you will be capturing at 720 540 which is a lot of pixels to process. If you can capture at 320 240 with firewire it should be fine. Otherwise if you are doing 720 540 - make sure you disable advanced quad in the Laser Tag settings as that will speed things up a lot.

Please send pics / video - we would love to see the results.

good luck!

2008/03/28 by GROMER • • Reply

Hey, im having trouble editing the XML file for the colors. i added new hex colors and used the correct coding but LASERTAG is still only recognizing the first 9 colors. how do i get it to see my new custom colors?

2008/03/28 by Theo • www • Reply

can you post the xml file somewhere?

maybe - http://www.rafb.net/paste/

2008/03/30 by GROMER • • Reply

http://rafb.net/p/JnTWEa64.html

2008/03/30 by Theo • • Reply

Ahh - after looking through the code - it looks like I am limiting the number of colors you can select. The xml file looks fine but the GUI will only allow you to select up to 8 colors.

If you can recompile the code - change in appController.cpp:

GUI.addSetting("Brush color", "BRUSH_COLOR", 0, 0, 8, 1);

To

GUI.addSetting("Brush color", "BRUSH_COLOR", 0, 0, 20, 1);

Otherwise just edit the first 8 colors to change their values instead.

2008/03/30 by GROMER • • Reply

hahaha. so simple. good looks. got an ill palette now. thanks, again.

2008/03/31 by Ian • • Reply

Problem when opening the app on xp. It keeps saying config wrong try to reinstall.

2008/03/31 by Theo • • Reply

Make sure you have quicktime installed.

2008/03/31 by ian • • Reply

i have quicktime and tried to run it in compatibility mode still doesent work.

2008/03/31 by Ian • • Reply

nvm im a jackass i just had to install .net framworks. Thanks Theo great job!

2008/04/04 by Ramonz • • Reply

Hi Theo, please
how can i view the fire wire cam? the application doesn't see the cam! Can i use it or i've to use an usb cam?

2008/04/07 by Anonymous • • Reply

Yes. I would also enjoy a linux version.

2008/04/08 by Sly • • Reply

Would a "pro-Tibet" tagging be considered as a lame guerrilla marketing event?

2008/04/08 by Theo • • Reply

No - it would be the most awesome thing in the world.

Fuck CPC!

2008/04/09 by Holy McBain • • Reply

great tool!

2008/04/11 by HOUET • • Reply

Hello Théo.
My baby's name is also Théo...Your "baby" is as beautiful as mine, but i need a french translation of Laser Tag 2.0 to understand it as well as possible. Because i'm just a frenchie ... Hi.
Please help me. I count on you, and i want to do a "laser tag" in Bordeaux and to be the first.
Thank you for all.
Didier (+33608570889)

2008/04/15 by Eric Long • • Reply

I just downloaded this software im just have trouble getting the isight working with this software. I have read threw the comments and i put the camera use to 1 and the camera id to 0.

2008/04/16 by Theo • • Reply

Did you save the settings and restart the app? The app has to be restarted for the camera to work.

Theo

2008/04/17 by Krecke Yann • • Reply

Hello, great work!
I have a little question, does it work with a 2,5 or 3 mW laser or must it be a 5 mW minimum?

thank you

2008/04/18 by Theo • • Reply

5mW is really the minimum for a close setup so even 5w is generally too weak.

2008/04/17 by the_funk • • Reply

Hey Theo, this software is amazing. Been following your work for a while now and finally have the means to be able to build this out. I was wondering, you said it was cool for a guy to use it at a Heineken sponsored festival as long as no Heineken logo's were being projected up on to it and people were allowed to write their thoughts and words freely. Is this your stance on all advertising and marketing stuff? If I had a team of guys giving away free shit on the street and this was with them for people to use freely would you be cool with that?

I'm hoping you say yes, cause otherwise I'll never have the money to play with laser tag. IT WOULD NOT PROJECT ANY BRANDING AND WOULD BE FREE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTED TO USE IT. I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me and thank you in advance.

2008/04/18 by Theo • • Reply

Hmm it really depends - we generally so no to that sort of stuff (promotion by association).

can you email me with more info - theo@(this website)

2008/04/21 by Christian Brown • • Reply

Hey, Theo,

I posted a few months ago, and just wanted to let you know that I've built a flash-based wrapper for the laser tracking system. I gutted the actual graffiti part, leaving just the laser tracking and network code, and built a few classes in ActionScript 3 that let you treat the laser pointer like a mouse. You register flash symbols with the class, and it dispatches mouseover, mouseout and click events. I'll be making this open source, but thought you might be interested in what's being done with your work.

~CTB

2008/04/22 by Theo • • Reply

Oh cool! great! This is what I was hoping for - so far not many people have used the networked part of Laser Tag.

do you have a link? be great if you could upload a short video demoing how it works!

cheers
theo

2008/04/23 by Christian Brown • • Reply

Yeah, I'm in the process of building a big fancy demo for it. I'll be projecting in Baltimore within the month, and I'll probably release the source at the same time.

In the meantime, I've set up a blog that's documenting the technical side of things. Nothing fancy, but it at least addresses the concerns involved, so other people don't have to go through what I did to make it work.

http://laserflash.blogspot.com/

Anyway, I'll let you know when it goes live.

~CTB

2008/04/22 by Shawn Pinchbeck • • Reply

Going to do this in Edmonton, Canada June 20th-ish! Very cool thing! Thanks for the Mac software version!

Shawn

2008/04/24 by Leevi Graham • • Reply

I have the same issue with my iMac. I was hoping to have a bit of a play with the app but when I launch it it crashes.

2008/04/24 by Theo • • Reply

Oh cool - I\'ll keep track of your RSS feed :)

Your big realization - I had that moment too. it was funny. I was like Flash (or the any client app) doesn\'t need warping we just align the camera to the whole projection.

Hope it goes well!
Theo

2008/04/25 by mr Frank • • Reply

Laser arrives on monday. Than doing try outs. We got a guy turning of the lights of the building, now looking for a bigger beam. I guess 5k is not bright enough. I'll keep you posted.

2008/04/27 by momodub • • Reply

hello!
First got everything running on my mac book. But my framerate is really low. (7 fps) and got it to 12 when advanced quad is off.

was thinking about a min of 30 fps? luxus or possible

setup: firewire cam. one gig of ram, macbook pro intel.

greetz outta wien

2008/04/27 by Theo • • Reply

hey send me an email (theo @ this site ) - michael was explaining your setup, it sounds very strange.

Theo

2008/05/02 by jjelement • • Reply

Any idea Theo to fix ,camera problem on macbook , i run app set camera to 1 restart, and again crash , whole the time, in bootcamp i cant use projector, an on parrarells i get about 4fps daaaamn. help with some working ver on leopard ...
btw. when i make positive film roll i will send you a photos, ive build small projector on led , with batteries .. http://flickr.com/photos/diamondjef/sets/72157604722894706/ all here, its v1,5 and coming to 2,0 with smooth wood look :) , work on slide but its wery porable and power its quite good, 235lumens for about 50$ ..

2008/05/03 by Anonymous • • Reply

Brilliant!!!

2008/05/05 by eric • • Reply

\\\"Drip Direction\\\" is not working on Leopard (settings 0,1,2,3 all drip \\\"down\\\"). It worked on the PC i tried it with.

2008/05/05 by Theo • • Reply

Works for me in Leopard 10.5.2

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture3xf1.png

2008/05/07 by Alexandre Girard • • Reply

Hi Theodore,

I'm trying to test the network options, but I cant make it transfer anything.

I'm using wireshark to debug it, but there sin't any packet sent by lasertag, have you already encounter this issue?

My lasertag network config:

1
1
192
168
2
108
10420
1

2008/05/08 by Anonymous • • Reply

Shouldn't it be?:

1
1
1
192
168
2
108
10420

Anyway I should have mentioned this but TCP Laser Tag is a server - so you have to initiate a connection to it by having your client connect to the machines IP address (the machine running LT) - therefore you don't even need to set the IP address in Laser Tag for TCP (only UDP) as when the client connects the server initiates a new TCP connection between the client and server.

You only actually need to set the IP address if LT is in UDP mode as then it will send UDP packets to the IP address and Port specified.

If you still have issues - also check your firewall - that can cause problems too.

Cheers
Theo

2008/05/07 by Alexandre Girard • • Reply

Everything good, I didn't understand that TCP option was a server, and UDP option waas a client :)

Ready to add some nice stuff to Laser Tag now, and I might connect it to arduino if the fun continue :)

2008/05/08 by Theo • • Reply

Haha - just read this after writing the previous reply!

Awesome glad you got it running. If you do anything cool with it please send pics/video arudino could be very interesting!!!

2008/05/07 by mr Frank • • Reply

This is what it looked like in Groningen on the Gasunie building

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7vgF_XfpIg

2008/05/08 by Theo • • Reply

Awesome! Nice video!

Glad you got it running and thanks for the shoutout!

Thats not an easy spot to do LT - think it worked really well considering!

What sort of beamer?
12,000 lumens?
Looks like a sanyo from what I could tell.

cheers!
theo

2008/05/08 by jjelement • • Reply

http://flickr.com/photos/diamondjef/ last photos, still image led projector in work :)

what you think about? ,only 230lumens but, look quite good,

2008/05/13 by pipo • • Reply

hi folks,

i tried your software on pc and mac. Software runs properly on my pc, but to slow, 3fps. Now i tried the new mac book pro...30fps.

my problem: if i start the sofware on my mac the left and the middle window are busy... with showing lasertag_test.mov. And in right window it shows this test-style. What can I do to recieve the picture of the build in or external cam. I don't get it with changes in the settings.xml-file.

thnx for help.

2008/05/13 by pipo • • Reply

hi folks,

i tried your software on pc and mac. Software runs properly on my pc, but to slow, 3fps. Now i tried the new mac book pro...30fps.

my problem: if i start the sofware on my mac the left and the middle window are busy... with showing lasertag_test.mov. And in right window it shows this test-style. What can I do to recieve the picture of the build in or external cam. I don't get it with changes in the settings.xml-file.

thnx for help.

2008/05/20 by Theo • • Reply

Change the Use Camera Setting from 0 to 1. Then hit the 's' key - restart the app and it should be using the camera

2008/05/21 by Anonymous • • Reply

So if i plug in the camera into my powerbook G4 with no capture device or software, Laser Tag is suposed to recognize it and everything will be dandy? because up untill now i have been trying to get it out of the demo video loop but i can't.

REPLY FROM THEO:
You need to change the setting "Use Camera" from 0 to 1 then hit the 'S' key to save the settings then restart the app.

2008/05/22 by Pablo Chea • • Reply

what happens if i'm using a macbook pro and it is only recognizing its built in i-sight and not the firewire camera.

2008/05/23 by Anonymous • • Reply

Then it should work fine.
It won't be as accurate as an external camera though.

2008/05/22 by Anonymous • • Reply

for a mac no capturing device is needed, or software to recognize the camera?

2008/05/22 by Anonymous • • Reply

for a mac no capturing device is needed, or software to recognize the camera?

2008/05/22 by Anonymous • • Reply

for a mac no capturing device is needed, or software to recognize the camera?

2008/06/04 by Stochastic • • Reply

I'd like to put a fourth vote in for a port to Linux. Though it sounds like quicktime libraries are an integral part of the software, so it'd be a lot of work to port. Keep me posted if you need alpha testers, or any help with a port.

2008/06/04 by Theo • • Reply

Its already done - I can post it very soon! Camera support is limited though.

Theo

2008/06/17 by Chris • • Reply

Wow what a great Update this Version is. My expectations were more than fulfilled. You really took your time to get all these functions going, the users wished for. Thank you very very much for your hard work. I bet we will have as much fun with this version, than with the old one.

2008/06/17 by Theo • • Reply

Hey thanks! Its great to hear that :)

Hope you get some good use out of it!!!

Theo

2008/06/25 by AZTEK732 • • Reply

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2008/07/03 by JZONEarcade • • Reply

You are a saint for answering the same questions over and over! I read it all and had no problems. This will be fun to play with here in Denver.

My setup:

Lumen labs DIY 15"projector
PowerBook G4 1.25GHz
1 GB memory
Cannon ZR45 DV (Firewire)
OS X 10.5.3

Thank you!

2008/07/03 by Rich Shumaker • • Reply

Any ideas if the software is still available - went to the available link and the site was a GoDaddy placecard.
Love the idea and I am excited to try it out.

2008/07/03 by Theo • • Reply

yeah the domain expired - we renewed it - should be back very soon!

very embarrassing :)

2008/07/04 by Olly • • Reply

WOW!
Very very interesting Programm!

Is there a possibility do download the OS X version from another server or would you mind emailing it to me?

Greetz from Munich....


Olly

2008/07/04 by Olly • • Reply

Hey Sorry... Down is working!


Thanx...

2008/07/09 by Jim • • Reply

Can this program be used with any other-- e.g. as an overlay? Specifically, can you play a video or show pictures over the projector through the same laptop and use this program to edit/mark over it?

2008/07/29 by jack • • Reply

Hi, I've been wanting to use this for ages, saw you doing stuff at ars last year and been waiting for an osx version. I cant seem to change camera settings hitting c does nothing for me, any tips.

Amazing work!!

osx 10.4.11

2008/07/30 by jack • • Reply

my apologies, I was being an idiot, got it working now.

Cheers for a great tool.

2008/07/30 by jack • • Reply

my apologies, I was being an idiot, got it working now.

Cheers for a great tool.

2008/08/02 by fadetech • • Reply

Does the fade settings in settings.xml work in the osx verison?

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2008/08/11 by luis viale • • Reply

Hi Im from Argentina and I want to do this in south america!!. The problem i have with my macbook pro it´s that when I change from camera 0 to camera 1 the program quits. When I want to restart it, the program don´t let me (wants to load, but nothing happens) I read that someone happens the same, but It says that you put a patch for that but I dont know where to download. Please I want to do this, give me hand.
You rule!!! thanks.

2008/08/16 by AB Watson • • Reply

I have downloaded LaserTag2002 and it opened fine but then i tried opening it again a the application stops half way through opening then closes itself? ant idea? I'm on a macbook pro Intel Core Duo, 17inch using osx 10.4.11. I so badly want to try this out.

2008/08/18 by valentiiiiiiiiiiiiina ! XDDD! (6) • • Reply

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2008/08/25 by brad • • Reply

im on a macbook, running leopard, and i got the program running, its recognizing my isight, i go into camera settings, but the only thing i can adjust under the "Adjustments" tab is the "Image" tab which has settings for Saturation and Sharpness. I can't get to the "Color" or "Mechanics" tabs under the "Adjustment" tab...so I cannot adjust brightness, etc. I tried using macam but that only works with USB cameras, I can't adjust the built in Isight. Any suggestions?

2008/08/26 by Olm-e • • Reply

hi, I was wondering when the linux port could be available ? I read up there this is "done" since 2 month but I dont see it...
thank for the very good job !

2008/08/26 by honduras • • Reply

I like to be operating the projector and reflects all video laser must tighten some key or please ayudenme want to make history in honduras ....... please

2008/08/26 by honduras • • Reply

I like to be operating the projector and reflects all video laser must tighten some key or please ayudenme want to make history in honduras ....... please

2008/08/26 by eder • • Reply

I like to be operating the projector and reflects all video laser must tighten some key or please ayudenme want to make history in honduras ....... please

2008/09/05 by christian • • Reply

I carnt get this part working:
Mac users will need to setup the projector to be to the right of their Desktop and then launch the Laser Tag app, type Command-',' and then check the box that says 'use extended desktop'.

wher do i type the command-,´,?

2008/09/14 by Mrtheox • • Reply

What is it about the Watec camera that makes ideal for larger projections? The ability to adjust the iris? It's sensitivity to low light?

2008/09/18 by jack • • Reply

Hi,

Fantastic tool, I saw the open frameworks lab at Ars Electronica last week and felt mega inspired.

My question though..... I'm trying to get the data from laser tag into max/msp but dont seem to recieve anything using udp.receive, my settings in laser tag are-

1
1
0
127
0
0
1
10420

Which should connect but I seem to be unable to recieve any data, has anybody else connected to max or am I missing something in my settings?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Cheers

JK

2008/09/18 by jack • • Reply

Hi,

Fantastic tool, I saw the open frameworks lab at Ars Electronica last week and felt mega inspired.

My question though..... I'm trying to get the data from laser tag into max/msp but dont seem to recieve anything using udp.receive, my settings in laser tag are-

1
1
0
127
0
0
1
10420

Which should connect but I seem to be unable to recieve any data, has anybody else connected to max or am I missing something in my settings?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Cheers

JK

2008/09/22 by theo • • Reply

UDP def works - you might have to check that there is no firewall settings (xp or vista) that are blocking the connection - try also changing the port.

2008/09/22 by laptop battery • • Reply

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2008/10/14 by tom • • Reply

the best the best the best. but i cant get it to work, i will be trying again tomorrow, i love uuuu guys. the best. theo...you rock

2008/10/14 by tom • • Reply

the best the best the best. but i cant get it to work, i will be trying again tomorrow, i love uuuu guys. the best. theo...you rock

2008/10/17 by tom • • Reply

hello theo.
i wrote the 2 last messages, theo..here is what i got, a dell inspiron 6000 (2 years old, with 1g of ram, a dell proyector i imagine is 1500 lums the laser is a galieo 5mw the video camara is an msi 1.3 mega px, I TRY AND I TRY with my budy simon and nothing, nothing, we dont know what we are doing wrong, any sujestions, is our equipment good enough, do we need an other laptop, proyector? camara? is it too slow...i cant wait to sent you videos of our tagging.

tom

2008/10/18 by theo • • Reply

shoot me an email - send a couple of photos of your settings and the input the camera is getting. cheers,
theo

2008/10/26 by BadBoyBill • • Reply

Had my first go last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv3ASLD6rZk

dell 2400MP (3000Lumens)
Canon Elura100
Honda EU2000 (generator)

2008/10/31 by tom • • Reply

theo. i sent you the pics you ask me for with the set up..any coments? pleaseeeeeeeee

2008/10/31 by tom • • Reply

theo. i sent you the pics you ask me for with the set up..any coments? pleaseeeeeeeee

2008/11/04 by tom • • Reply

couldnt find preview pin using smarttee, is a comment i get.

2008/11/04 by tom • • Reply

couldnt find preview pin using smarttee, is a comment i get.

2008/11/18 by Matthew • • Reply

I cannot click on certain options such as Camera options. The shortcuts for these unclickable items don't work either.Mac Leapord

2008/11/18 by Matthew • • Reply

I cannot click on certain options such as Camera options. The shortcuts for these unclickable items don't work either.Mac Leapord

2008/11/18 by Matthew • • Reply

I cannot click on certain options such as Camera options. The shortcuts for these unclickable items don't work either.Mac Leapord

2008/12/01 by C • • Reply

I'm also getting a Runtime error.

I tried setting the device id to 1 but that didn't work either...

2008/12/04 by jesse • • Reply

so, i can only get version one working on my desktop right now cause i only have a single graphics card. but check it out:

http://qik.com/video/652797

and

http://qik.com/video/652763

and

http://qik.com/video/652373



thanks!!!
we'll try to do some more at art basel miami tomorrow. but with real writers

2008/12/04 by jesse • • Reply

so, i can only get version one working on my desktop right now cause i only have a single graphics card. but check it out:

http://qik.com/video/652797

and

http://qik.com/video/652763

and

http://qik.com/video/652373



thanks!!!
we'll try to do some more at art basel miami tomorrow. but with real writers

2008/12/20 by Lauri Laatikainen • • Reply

Just downloaded this app really cool. Just one quick question to anyone who could help. I have the app on mbp leopard, works ok with the isight, BUT i wan't to use an external USB camera. If i remove the QuickTimeUSBVDCDigitizer.component the system crashes all the time...

2008/12/20 by Lauri Laatikainen • • Reply

Just downloaded this app really cool. Just one quick question to anyone who could help. I have the app on mbp leopard, works ok with the isight, BUT i wan't to use an external USB camera. If i remove the QuickTimeUSBVDCDigitizer.component the system crashes all the time...

2008/12/21 by combatpyroc • • Reply

I'm running a sony vaio laptop,I've down loaded the Laser Tag 2.0 software.My laser is a single colour,100Mw projector with a 25pin input for IDLA,that connects to an interface that is pluged into my USB port.Laptop has a S video port and second monitor port.Do you have any advice on how to connect my laser projector to run on Laser Tag.I do animations on a Lasershow program as a form of graffiti and would love to be able to do "live" graffiti with the laser tag program.Do I need to use the interface or send the signal directly into the laser.

2009/01/09 by Joni • • Reply

This program is so cool im always dream program like this so thanks

2009/01/15 by SOSDAGHOST • • Reply

LASER TAG IS SO COOL IM ABOUT TO GO OUT AND BUY EVERYTHING NEEED. BUT MY ONLY QUESTION IS HOW CAN I GET MY HANDS ON THE ACTUAL LASER TAG SOFTWARE. I WAS TOLD THAT I COULD GET FREE ONLINE BUT WHERE AND HOW.IM NO COMPUTER GENIUS BUT I AM A ARTIST.

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2009/01/15 by Ryan • • Reply

If someone could please help me i am confused with how to run the file

2009/01/15 by Tranz • • Reply

What are some of the other settings in "tracking" and how can they be used?

I also see a "fade" in the XML. Can this be used to fade out whats thrown up over time or something?

2009/01/15 by Tranz • • Reply

How can I integrate different vector shapes for brushes?

2009/01/15 by Tranz • • Reply

How can I integrate different vector shapes for brushes?

2009/01/16 by Uncle Rico • • Reply

hey there yall,
working now on getting this up and running for the spring time here in oregon. go to OSU and hope to get this up for bombin da campus here! i'll hopefully have vid and pics up!

2009/01/21 by Marwyn Ng • • Reply

i just downloaded the application how can i set the app. to run the test video.

will it show on my pc even if i still dont have my projector?

2009/01/23 by Tranz • • Reply

The test video runs by default. Yes, you will be able to see it running in the application itself.

2009/01/23 by Tranz • • Reply

The test video runs by default. Yes, you will be able to see it running in the application itself.

2009/01/22 by webb • • Reply

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2009/01/23 by Tranz • • Reply

**MAC USERS**

You might have issues trying to use a webcam that will work. The newest one from Logitech, Quick Cam 9000 is auto focus ONLY and can't be disabled. It wont track effectively.

The Fix:
Xbox Live cam. Cheap at $40. 1.3 megapixel and is manual focus. All of the camera settings in LaserTag work.

2009/02/13 by ean • • Reply

HELP ! !
as you can see from our site we have all the best intentions !
downloaded was kind of working tried to get web cam to work now wont open ? ?
what do i do
p.s total novice

2009/02/13 by ean • • Reply

a little extra details: using mac, got The test video to run i.e laser tag application
could not use certain key commands only f for full screen ? also when opened tried typing command etc nothing seemed to happen ?
also set up projector screen to the right etc set screen size as suggested didnt seem to display propaly i.e projector screen was still partly on computer side, then tried to use web cam downloaded driver for cam then everything since has gone tits up ha ha tried restarting computer 2 x deleated webcam driver still laser tag tries to open but just flashes up in tool bar then gone....
what do we do ? ?
cheers ean

2009/02/13 by ean • • Reply

a little extra details: using mac, got The test video to run i.e laser tag application
could not use certain key commands only f for full screen ? also when opened tried typing command etc nothing seemed to happen ?
also set up projector screen to the right etc set screen size as suggested didnt seem to display propaly i.e projector screen was still partly on computer side, then tried to use web cam downloaded driver for cam then everything since has gone tits up ha ha tried restarting computer 2 x deleated webcam driver still laser tag tries to open but just flashes up in tool bar then gone....
what do we do ? ?
cheers ean

2009/02/14 by ean • • Reply

Xbox 360 Vision Camera

is this what you mean for mac ? ?

cheers

2009/02/15 by Allen • • Reply

I think this is so cool! My only problem is that I don't have a projector to use, and have been having problems using it with my monitor which is to be expected.

2009/02/18 by Joel • • Reply

Hello
I would like to use this wonderful software to use it with multiple beamers.
Problem is that the software sends pictures to only one of my beamers. Probably its because the outputed format.
I read something about having to change the sourcecode to solve this problem.
Does anyone have experience with this topic, and knows what exactly to change in the source code (mac). Honestly i have no experience with codes so far.
Or does anyone have another simple solution for this?
Thanx for your help.
Greetings Joel

2009/02/18 by blaze montana • • Reply

this app kicks ass! great for my DJ gigs. will be setting up laser tag at the convention center albq. NM
thank you guys!

2009/02/27 by tim • • Reply

My pc cant start the program!!
Message:
"couldnt start, because the configuration is uncorrect, Please reinstall!"

2009/03/02 by Spencer • • Reply

Hey Theo,

My Question, what would be the most simplest forms of the supplies needed to make this work inside,

and

how much tweeking of the code would i need to do to make this work with four projectors/walls i.e. in a room able to write a different thing on each wall...

thanks

-Spencer

2009/03/05 by Theo • • Reply

Easiest way would be to have one laptop/pc per wall.

So:
4 x projector
4 x laptop
4 x camera

Depending on the size of the room you may need quite wide angle projectors.

I hope this isn't a commercial installation btw as we don't allow our software to be used for commercial projects or promotional events.

Theo

2009/03/04 by Tony • • Reply

Spencer,

It seems that Theo has not been back to his own site for some time. I can help you.

In order for it to write across 4 projectors you would need to edit the width in the code base. The other issue and a bigger one is that you need to hook up the 4 to one laptop and have it see them all as one single output.

Email me and I can let you know how to make this happen.

tony (at) iwerx.com

2009/03/07 by Spencer • • Reply

Tony,

thanks for the reach out to help, i will contact you soon,
don't think i haven't forgotten about you,
just busy, lol

but i will contact you soon

-Spencer

2009/03/07 by Spencer • • Reply

Theo,

No Sir this isn't for commercial use, I understand and follow your rules about this open source program, and I understand how much you/your group has worked on this program.
I attend and bar tend at local parties, i normally just bring my two green laser to party with, but it would be nice to make more of a show with it, and add in my own music too,
I only am thinking four cuz of each wall something different, or something like that.
if I get one of those vga extension box[takes one vga and splits it’s to, two-four] would that work ?
and what are the issues having more then one camera on one pc/program? Is there a way to have all four cameras/projectors running through one PC/Laptop?

And what’s the most minimal setup in the computer do I need, i.e.: processor, ram. And do you think this could work on a Netbook [mini laptop]?

Thanks

-Spencer

2009/03/09 by Theo • • Reply

Thanks for the explanation!

Min specs would be a macbook or mac mini -
ie: core 2 duo basic processor - 1gb ram and ideally nvidia graphics card. but you could get away with intel integrated graphics.

I think the new mac mini's that came out last week would be a perfect laser tag machine.

Theo

2009/03/09 by bramilo • • Reply

The app won't start on an HP DC7100 PC with XP. It has QuickTime installed. Here's the error message:

"This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem."

I have been able to run this app on Vista and Mac OSX (PPC).

I noticed a few postings about this issue but can't see if there has been a fix suggested.

Thanks.

2009/03/09 by bramilo • • Reply

re the "config ... reinstall" issue: someone mentioned installing /net framework solved the problem. i had .net framework 1.1 but still had the problem. i installed .net framework 3 and that seems to have solved the problem. the add now works, thanks.

2009/03/09 by Joanna • • Reply

Hi! I used your application last year and it was a success. I'm trying to set it up for an event I'm hosting in two days. This time, the camera settings are not showing! I'm using Tiger 10.4.1 on my Mac, and whenever I hit "c" nothing happens!

I saw there are some previous comments on this as well, but no reply from you. Is there something I should do?

Thanks!

2009/03/09 by Joanna • • Reply

Hi! I used your application last year and it was a success. I'm trying to set it up for an event I'm hosting in two days. This time, the camera settings are not showing! I'm using Tiger 10.4.1 on my Mac, and whenever I hit "c" nothing happens!

I saw there are some previous comments on this as well, but no reply from you. Is there something I should do?

Thanks!

2009/03/09 by Bartek • • Reply

Sorry, this should have come here.

There seems to be a bug in the mac version causing the software to crash when c is pressed while in full screen mode. (at least on my mac mini running leopard). It works fine when the settings are made while still windowed.

2009/03/09 by Bartek • • Reply

Hey Theo,

I'm in the process of porting the software to linux. While profiling for performance enhancements I noticed that drawing the settings menu by uses 40% (!) of available cycles. Switching to the bitmap font almost completely removes the impact of drawing the menu.

I was also wondering about the license given the abundant use of GPL code used in openframeworks.

Cheers,
Bartek

2009/03/09 by Bartek • • Reply

Joanna, there's a bug in the mac version which seems to lock up the lasertagging soft (at least on my leopard mini) but only in full screen mode. It works when in window mode.

2009/03/09 by Joanna • • Reply

Hi! I tried it with a Leopard Mac, and didn't work. Not even when in window mode. When I hit the fullscreen mode, I hit c and the system does not crash.

When I leave it in window mode, I hit c and the same.

2009/03/10 by Joanna • • Reply

Thanks for your quick reply, by the way.

One thing to mention though, the camera is still not detected by the program. I installed it in 3 different computers and the same happened in all of them.

I installed it on Windows too, and it worked just fine. But I need to work on a Mac with Leopard...

Sorry to bother you again, is there hope?

2009/03/10 by Tony • • Reply

The issue I found when dealing with my MBP was that some cameras just didnt work. I had to pick up a MS Xbox cam and that worked as it was seen by the Mac itself.

Also, when in full screen mode and you hit "C" The camera panel does come up but under the full screen window. If you hit "enter" this will close the camera window and allow you to go out of full screen, then back to the camera panel.

2009/03/10 by Joanna • • Reply

Thanks! I solved the problem now, it was a camera issue.

On the other hand, the tracking is too slow, so I guess I'll play with the settings and see if it gets better.

Thank you! I'll send pics.

2009/03/10 by carlos • • Reply

when i'm traying to tag in the wall... the tag doesn't seems smooth and feels slow...like jumping not following the path of the beam.
What can I do?

I have lap MAC Intel Core Duo

2009/03/10 by carlos • • Reply

when i'm traying to tag in the wall... the tag doesn't seems smooth and feels slow...like jumping not following the path of the beam.
What can I do?

I have lap MAC Intel Core Duo

2009/03/10 by Tony • • Reply

One thing that helps is make sure you dont have any extra apps that are running on the MBP. The FPS will go from 59 to 30 when you start drawing. Also check out and see what the frame rate for your camera is. In order to get it right it takes a lot of tweaking. Once you know it then setup takes about 5 minutes.

I currently have a BenQ 4000 lumen projector but will be playing with a 30,000 in a few weeks so I can't wait.

2009/03/12 by Carlos • • Reply

Hey Thanks for the replay, finally works and pretty sweet. I will post some pics... cheers

2009/03/19 by Joel • • Reply

Hey Theo,

thanks a lot for this awesome invention! :D

Just one issue...
Is it possible to track with the i sight? Because it seems I can't turn of the autofocus and so the projections are fooling around and it's not tracking the laser. I've now tried it with a sony hd cam (HDR HC7), but the software is not recongnizing the camera, I even cannot select this camera within the camera preferences!

Thanks in advance, :)
Joel

2009/03/19 by Joel • • Reply

:)
I figured it out,
aaaamazing =)
thanks a lot!

greetings from Zurich,
Joel

2009/03/21 by Tony • • Reply

Joel,

Please post what you did to fix the issue so others can be helped as well.

Thanks

2009/03/29 by Prathmesh Jakkanwar • • Reply

i have to make a project for my college.is there any stuff for guys like me?
please reply.
thank you.

2009/03/29 by Prathmesh Jakkanwar • • Reply

i have to make a project for my college.is there any stuff for guys like me?
please reply.
thank you.

2009/03/29 by Prathmesh Jakkanwar • • Reply

i have to make a project for my college.is there any stuff for guys like me?
please reply.
thank you.

2009/04/21 by haunain • • Reply

hello,
i used isight for first test and it worked. but now i'm going to use canon 350i(firewire) and i set "use camera 1"+"camera no. 0". but it still use isight. i went to commend c> camera setting >source, it lists dv video, iidc firewire video, built-in isight three option, but i can only click built-in isight.
is there anything wrong?

thanks a lot!

2009/04/21 by haunain • • Reply

hello again,
and other problem is i couldn't separate macbook display and projector display. so when i paint laser tag, i have to switch to single screen i can't see work pad on my macbook.

help~

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2009/05/05 by Richard • • Reply

I noticed that a new commercial product called Afterglow just launched. Does Laser Tag work with PowerPoint and other applications or does the product just used for laser graffiti? Does anyone know if Laser Tag can be used in a regular conference room? Afterglow is a bit too expensive, and so I'm hoping that Laser Tag will work for us.

2009/05/08 by Tony • • Reply

Richard,
It can be used in a conf room with a smaller projector. I found some info on Afterglow and no. This software will not even come close as it wasn't designed for that purpose.

2009/05/12 by Richard • • Reply

Tony,
Thanks for your reply. I guess I'll look into Afterglow then to solve the problem in terms of PowerPoint.

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2009/05/13 by Trrl • • Reply

Hey, I was wondering, how bright a projector WOULD you need to do big, outside stuff? I would love to write on a building!

2009/05/13 by Trrl • • Reply

Hey, I was wondering, how bright a projector WOULD you need to do big, outside stuff? I would love to write on a building!

2009/06/11 by Connor Stuart • • Reply

I just read your "read me" document. Why don't you just CHARGE for this software so that people can actually use it for something productive and useful? Stop being so sanctimonious! There's nothing wrong with making money and turning a profit. Jeez!!

2009/06/30 by Theo • • Reply

So only commercial usage is productive and useful? Nice outlook!

2009/06/16 by Juan Carlos Vega • • Reply

I´m trying to use this program, but I can't get it to work correctly. I can open the program with no problem but nothing happens when I move the laser. You can see some lines, but they are not the lines or figures than I'm drawing.

I have a hp pavillion dv 600 laptop, with a web cam, a Benq projector 1500 lummens and a green laser with max imput less than 5mW radio shack.
I just downloaded the lasertag2002 xpvista. Do I have to download more files to get it work? or I have to improve some of my equipment?

Thanks,

2009/06/16 by Juan Carlos Vega • • Reply

I´m trying to use this program, but I can't get it to work correctly. I can open the program with no problem but nothing happens when I move the laser. You can see some lines, but they are not the lines or figures than I'm drawing.

I have a hp pavillion dv 600 laptop, with a web cam, a Benq projector 1500 lummens and a green laser with max imput less than 5mW radio shack.
I just downloaded the lasertag2002 xpvista. Do I have to download more files to get it work? or I have to improve some of my equipment?

Thanks,

2009/06/28 by Johan • • Reply

Hi

I just downloaded the Laser tag software for the mac
but the hole screen is cover with a big black box
the sort cut like full screen and clean screen work but i can't see the screen what do i do

2009/06/30 by Adam • • Reply

Hey everyone.

I'm just curious because we are trying to do this and having a little bit of trouble. This is a list of the equipment we are using and/or would like to use. My only question is regarding connections.

We have:

- Barco XLM HD30 30,000 lumens projector (with S-Video, DVI, HDMI inputs)
- Powerbook G4 Laptop (with VGA Port) -OR- an iMac G5 (with Mini-DVI Port)
- Watec 221s Security Camera [used in LaserTag version 1] (with BNC, S-Video outputs)
- Dragon Lasers 95mW Green Laser

As far as I know, it is possible to connect the laptop to the projector with a VGA -> S-Video cable without any trouble whatsoever. What I want to know is how do I get a Video Input to work with a Mac? Are there any other third-party hardware converters/adapters that I need to buy?

Just so it's clear, we are a non-profit organization, running Video Art/Film/Community-driven work in a downtown city setting and have no desire whatsoever to turn this into a commercial spectacle - merely hoping to open up a very cool opportunity to the community.

Any help that anyone could provide would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Adam

2009/07/05 by YoongHM • • Reply

Thank for the work. The camera configuration works like a charm.
I would like to know if it is possible to superimpose Laser Tag on any application such as web browser.

2009/07/05 by YoongHM • • Reply

I have one solution. If the display of the application is static (or does not change much until user refresh it), then Laser Tag may capture the screen as image. Then add the laser points on the image and then output again. A better solution is needed if the application updates its display automatically. Any comment?

2009/07/07 by SortaAnonymousUK • • Reply


This rocks. Kudos to Theo and Zachary.

(posted in another thread, which seems to have died): I'm trying to get a rig up for my wedding in a couple months, almost got a basic system up for an hour or so (HP laptop, Dell projector, cheap webcam, cheap 30mW laser from $someplace on the net),
but then the laser crapped out (duff mechanics, I think). Any recommendations for a *reliable* 15-30mW laser for this (on a tight time and $ budget, so can't afford to Be Wrong if I'm shipping from overseas).

(Name witheld, in case my g/f sees this..)

2009/07/07 by Nicolás Serrano • • Reply

Thank you

Im using this in Bogota Colombia

2009/07/08 by Andrew • • Reply

I had a problem with the Laser Tag software. I cannot get it to project onto the wall where my laser is pointing. Tracking works fine and works on the computer screen fine, but does not show up on the wall. I have extended desktop on and other programs work when i drag them across into the 2nd screen. Any ideas how to fix this?

2009/07/09 by Tony • • Reply

Andrew,

Have you moved the corner effectors so that whats being seen by the cam and whats being projected match?

Could you give some info on your setup? If it was already stated, sorry..

2009/08/14 by Klyx • • Reply

Can anyone actually recommend a camera that works well with lt2002 in os x 10.5? I have tried 2 macam supported cams, and neither gives me white balance control in lt2002, rendering them useless ...

Sadly I booted into windows and it works :(

I'd buy a camera right now if someone can tell me a model that works well in os x!

Tia! SICK PROJECT

2009/08/14 by klyx • • Reply

Hi, love this project, thank you so much for all your work, and the comments here as well.

So I can't seem to find an external camera that will work with OS X. Can someone recommend one that works, for certain, under 10.5?

I have tried 2 macam supported cams but neither gives me access to the auto white balance, rendering them basically useless.

sadly I boot my new macbook pro into windows and the whole shebang works ... really want to run it in OS X...!

TIA!

2009/09/16 by Sandokan • • Reply

Theo, I wrote you an email asking to use it for commercial use. I told you, give us a quotation and we'll pay for it. Never got any kind of reply...ok, you hate any kind of "lame guerrilla", but not all the people around ads are bad. Could you please reply us?:)

2009/11/04 by Anonymous • • Reply

Hey I'm going to use this at my school for a fun weekend thing just to play around and thanks, but I have one problem when I start up the projector and have the app running it don' cover the whole projected area. What do you think i should do? Thanks A ton of Kids will love this.

2009/11/09 by Ulfilas • • Reply

Can you save the tags as image files?

2009/11/09 by ulfilas • • Reply

Would it also be possible to adapt the software to track Infrared light? Like the wiimote project?

2009/11/17 by Tech • • Reply

Hi, Theo.
Will 3000 or 4000Lumens projector works at a distance of 50m and above?
thanks

2009/11/21 by Tony • • Reply

Cameras that work on a Mac would be a MS Xbox cam for $40 US.
I know, I know, but it does work natively.

Also, if your on Mac and upgrade to Snow Leopard then it will break. The app needs to be recompiled in Xcode for Snow. There is some information on it at www.openframeworks.org

2009/11/22 by Tony • • Reply

Correction:
http://www.openframeworks.cc/

2009/12/05 by Peter • • Reply

Running Laser tag on Macbook Pro running OS X 10.5.8. The software loads but pressing 'c' does not bring up any camera options. Have tried building in O.F. and then cleaning before build, but problem persists. I have the Xbox webcam plugged in as my camera. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
Peter

2009/12/06 by Peter • • Reply

If anyone else has the same problem I was able to bring the camera settings up by opening the 'settings' folder and then opening 'settings.xml' and changed 0 to 1

2009/12/06 by Jack M • • Reply

Hey there!

I'm planning on creating a piece of generative music that derives itself from colour and shape, using graffiti created with laser tag. It would be part of a symposium called Sonic Arts in Wales, its non-profit and has been created to promote new contemporary electro-acoustic music.
http://www.rwcmd.ac.uk/other/music_departments/creative_music_technology/sonic_artists_in_wales.aspx

I'm planning to get artists to 'paint' on the outside of the building hosting the event, and I was wondering if you could give me some guidance on the power of the projector, laser pointer and video camera I would need for quite a large scale performance.
If you're wondering lasertag will be running on a mac!

I don't mind an emailed or commented reply!

Thanks very much!

Jack Melham

jackmelham@hotmail.co.uk

2009/12/08 by stuart harris • • Reply

ive been a massive fan of you guys since i first saw you on wooster collective!, now im gonna use this amazing software for a setup at my art collective event in january in St Helens, UK. should really impress the guests, credit will be given of course! ^_^

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2010/01/06 by Nicola • • Reply

Hi guys, i'm italian, and i want use this metod to as my fiance to get married, but i've a problem, i must buy the projector and i don't know what type. I've see an 1800 lumens at 300€ but i don't know the dimension of the image. Can anyone help me?

I've see on ebay item number 230416014490 it's ok to have an image of 6m width?

Thanks. Nicola.

2010/01/09 by ap • • Reply

is there anyway of using a red laser pointer?
I don't think there are green lasers in my area, the reds are already hard to find.

thanks

2010/01/26 by Deyan • • Reply

Hi guys thanks for making this software! :)
i got it running but i have little problem - i get only 3-4 fps when in fullscreen. it seems other people can get 30+fps. i've tryed it on 3 computers, each of them core2duos but with intel gpu. two are win7, one is win xp. all bring the same result. is the lack of Nvidia that makes the big difference or something else?
thank you :)

2010/01/31 by Rudy Wilson • • Reply

Big Respect!!! You guys rocks!!! ;)

2010/02/04 by ANN • • Reply

Hello!
a few days ago, I discovered the graffiti research, and I was totally in love with this way of painting and be able to picket at the same time. The problem comes here:
I downloaded the Mac version, and the first day I checked with him worked, (not quite, looked like a building, and the camera connected by firewire not recognized me) so I decided to find a webcam to know that run downloaded macam program and verify that the webcam could work. my great disappointment it was today when I decided to try it ... LASERTAG program, not boot stays on the dock suddenly disappears, makes a small glimpse but not open automatically disappears, so I gave it up to the macam and I've uninstalled, I rebooted my Mac and I'm back to prove, but I do, too. I read all the comments, and I have not gotten any response, I researched the internet and also ... 18:45 took from his computer to try to resolve the problem (it is now 0:50, I'm giving up, the truth) But I wish we can give a surprise for my boyfriend because he takes time to paint and would be a nice way to say something special.
I expect an answer as soon as possible, and if possible in a quick steps to follow to avoid losing more time.
Thank you very much,
:)

2010/02/04 by ANN • • Reply

Sorry, I forgot to write that my Mac is:
MAC OX v 10.5.8 intelcore 2Duo
memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM

2010/02/07 by Manolo • • Reply

Nice job! What about any Gnu/Linux version?
Thank you!

2010/02/08 by janeyi • • Reply


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